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[[:Image:May Day Parade 1957 Moscow.jpg|thumb |300px |alt=Seven men standing and waving behind a block wall, four of which are waving hats in the air |Seven members of the Soviet Presidium at 1957 May Day Parade (left to right): Georgy Zhukov (Candidate member), Nikita Khrushchev, Nikolai Bulganin, Lazar Kaganovich, Georgy Malenkov, Vyacheslav Molotov, and Anastas Mikoyan]]

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Mátyás Rákosi

Bronze statue of a kneeling young male with unruly hair holding a bronze Hungarian flag with a circular hole in the middle

Memorial to the Hungarian revolutionaries in Cleveland, Ohio

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Why are the pogroms not mentioned?

Is there any particular reasons why the pogroms committed by Whites are not mentioned in the article? If not then I will find RS and add them. KetchupSalt (talk) 13:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which whites?—blindlynx 19:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KetchupSalt is a Marxist and Communist apologist (see his history of edits at Special:Contributions/KetchupSalt), and appears to be confused here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.221.225.231 (talk) 04:12, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't really care about that. The interest is the sources provided. Genabab (talk) 17:15, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Janos Berecz cited?

For those unaware Janos Berecz was a Leninist hardliner of the ruling party, and his book was written in 1987. This is not an unbiased source, needless to say. 83.255.116.83 (talk) 02:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JFK files

I notice that the recently unsealed JFK files information about HFFF Inc. have been added to this page. From what I can tell, theses documents make no actual reference to the Hungarian revolution of 1956, only the HFFF Inc., which was formed in 1957 by Kiraly. What should be done? JPHC2003 (talk) 05:09, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I found this source explicitly stating the organization was formed in 1957:

The staid HNC or the American Hungarian Federation, the umbrella organization of Hungarian groups that was founded in 1906, were not for them; they formed their own groups, the most successful of which was the Hungarian Freedom Fighters Federation (HFFF), which was an outgrowth of an organization established by General Béla Kiraly in 1957.The most influential of the post-1956 groups, it splintered into several factions by 1958, of which it and the Hungarian Freedom Fighters Movement (HFFM) were the largest that remained.

https://www.academia.edu/117320568/6_Hungary by Katalin Kádár Lynn JPHC2003 (talk) 06:11, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPHC2003 The 2nd source I added is a CIA document compiled in 1953 saying that the HFFF existed at that point. The HFFF you're talking about is likely a continuation created in exile after the uprising Genabab (talk) 17:13, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have any sources that they were a continuation? What we have appears to showcase it was a pro-communist group. I'm not sure what relevance of it is to the revolution as is? Davejavuh (talk) 18:59, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Likely a continuation" is not definitive proof, and I do not see any news articles making the connection between the JFK files and that 2009 document you shared. Find an actual news source that confirms HFFF Inc. existed before 1957, or it should be removed due to WP:NOR. JPHC2003 (talk) 20:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPHC2003 I'm not sure how it's original research? Do you mind explaining that to me? Genabab (talk) 07:32, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Because it’s an original interpretation of a primary source that does not explicitly refer to this revolution; it’s an editor’s guess that they refer to the same group or that the latter is a continuation of the former, and no secondary source connects these documents with the revolution. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:51, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

hmm ok Genabab (talk) 18:13, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

massive nothingburger in regards to the event itself - There's no evidence of any solid membership of the group, or them causing the revolution to begin with. That's not going to stop the page being flooded by people redirected from Twitter/Bluesky, which is why I think it should be locked to registered users only. ⛿ WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 21:10, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]